On 15/11/09 the manager of J.J. Moons in Ruislip Manor, a Weatherspoons pub, tried to throw my mother out for having an assistance dog (Hearing Dog) with her. She was waiting to meet me and naturally, she refused to leave. The dog was wearing its clearly labelled “HEARING DOG FOR THE DEAF” jacket, was sitting quietly because he was working, and my mum (an OAP) was just sitting having a coffee.
As I arrived the manager was aggressively denying all knowledge of the existence of Hearing Dogs and demanding that she leave the pub. Mum couldn’t lipread him, he couldn’t understand her and mum was clearly upset. He refused to read the government-issued card she carries that says that hearing dogs are allowed in pubs etc, so I read it out loud to him. I got a bit arsy with him and he told me not to be aggressive (!). After repeatedly telling him she is legally allowed to have an assistance dog with her, he finally backed down, making out as if he was doing us a favour.
Later, my mum told me that before I arrived he had tried to physically push her out. Not hard, but he did push her towards the door. I wasn’t there to witness and so verify that, but if she says it happened then I take her word for it. She has no reason to make that up.
I made a complaint to the head office. On 27/11 I received the following reply:
Dear [me]
Thank you for your telephone call to our office.
We are very sorry to hear of the problems which were experienced during your recent visit to J.J Moons, when your mother was asked to leave as it was not recognised at the time that your mother had an assistance dog with her.
We would like to assure you that we have no issue with assistance dogs, whether they are in training or fully trained, being brought into our pubs, as we recognise their importance. However, there is a equirement to ensure that they are properly identifiable, by means of their leash, collar or harness. It is also beneficial if their owner or trainer carries a form of identification to show their purpose.
We can confirm that the Area Manager for the pub has been made aware of the complaint and will be reviewing it with the Pub Manager and team. There should not be any issue with taking your assistance dog to this, or any of our pubs, in the future.
Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused by this matter, and thank you for taking the time to contact us.
Your sincerely,
[Wetherspoons Customer Service Person]
They’re clearly trying to imply that it was my mother’s fault for not showing clearly that he’s as an assistance dog. The dog had on a bright red jacket that stated in big letters “HEARING DOG FOR THE DEAF”, was on a red lead that said the same and she TRIED to showed the manager her official ID card explaining what the dog is and he refused to read it, so I read the card out to him! I told them all this when I complained.
My mother is not keen on going to the press but I want to let people know what complete shits Wetherspoons are. I will be following up on their response by letter. Advice happily received.
*****UPDATE*****
This is the reply I have drafted:
Dear [name]
Re: Complaint ref [number]
Please find attached a copy of your reply to my complaint regarding my mother being asked to leave J.J. Moons in Ruislip Manor for having an assistance dog. I am not satisfied with your reply and would like to address several points.
The letter states that it was not recognised at the time that my mother had an assistance dog with her. The reason the dog was not recognised as an assistance dog was not due to any neglect on my mother’s part to make it clear, but rather due to the manager’s insistence that he had never heard of Hearing Dogs before. This indicates a significant lack of training and ignorance of the Disability Discrimination Act on his part.
The letter also states that “There is a requirement to ensure that they are properly identifiable, by means of their leash, collar or harness. It is also beneficial if their owner or trainer carries a form of identification to show their purpose.” I would like it acknowledged that, as I explained when I first made the complaint, the dog was wearing a large red coat which said in large letters “HEARING DOG FOR DEAF PEOPLE”. He was also wearing a red leash, with the same lettering on it. My mother presented the dog’s official ID card, which clearly states that assistance dogs are allowed in restaurants and pubs, to the pub manager but he did not read it, so I read it aloud to him. There is absolutely no sense in which the dog was not very clearly identified as an assistance dog, and the implication that this is the reason my mother was asked to leave is insulting and untrue.
If there is any doubt about the above, I recommend that you check the CCTV footage from the pub for the evening of 15/11 from 6pm onwards.
I would appreciate further contact from the Area Manager to acknowledge that the way my mother was treated was nothing to do with the dog not being clearly identified, and was due to poor training and ignorance on the part of the pub manager. I remind you that he tried to physically push my mother, an OAP, out of the pub while directly contravening the Disability Discrimination Act. His behaviour was unacceptable, and I would like this to be acknowledged before I decide which course of action to take next. I have several contacts in the media who I know are interested in the outcome of this incident.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Yours sincerely,
[me]
What do you think?



November 27, 2009 at 10:01 pm
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August 24, 2011 at 10:18 am
Hi
I had an experience with Wetherspoons in Carrickfergus, Northern Ireland. I started taking fits following concussion after a fall in the ice in December. I took a seizure there in March and my partner called an ambulance, as at the time I had not been diagnosed with epilepsy (I am now registered disabled. The manager assumed I was drunk, (I’d had 3 glasses of wine!) even though it was esplained to her that I was waiting to see a consultant neurologist regarding these fits. She then at a later date refused me a glass of wine with my lunch but I could have a soft drink instead. I asked why and she would not give me a reason. I complained to head office both in writing and on the phone and was told that the managers decision was final. I have consulted with the disability action group and have also been advised by the epuality commision and the human rights commission. When i asked was I being discriminated against because of my disability, he could or would not answer me. While Wetherspoons would not be somewhere I would frequent very often, it would be nice to have a coffee with my friends, who drink there (I no longer drink because of the epilepsy drugs) Watch this space!! Wetherespoons are a disgrace and reading the above comments I dont feel so bad. Unlawful discrimination under the disability rights act, victimisation and harrassment, as I was frogmarched off the premises when I went in to make an arrangement to meet my friends at another location. Disgrace disgrace disgrace!!!
February 26, 2012 at 9:34 pm
I have had a similar problemat TheEric Bartholomew in Morecambe-they don’t give adamn about disability awareness-may be we should all band together to get Wetherspoons disabilitykitemark takenoff them. All who want to join in email me at smith321@btinternet.com Maybe don’t care can be made to care Susanne
February 26, 2012 at 9:46 pm
susanne here again email for taking kitemark off wetherspons- smiths321@btinternet.com
November 27, 2009 at 10:10 pm
I would complain again, much higher up (Wetherspoons Chairman of the board is Tim Martin & John Hutson is the CEO) and cc the letter to your MP and the Equality & Human Rights Commission (which the Disability Rights Commission is now part of). I’d also register with OUCH! (the BBC disability issues message boards) and see if people have had similar experiences and what they did about it.
Good luck!
November 28, 2009 at 5:06 pm
I agree with Mrs Magpie, this needs to be dealt with more and should not be allowed to be brushed to one side – it is dispicable. I hope your mother has recovered from her ordeal.
x
November 30, 2009 at 12:49 pm
It’s amazing that companies don’t realise how infuriating it is to receive an “apology” that attempts to blame the victim for the incident. It would be almost better if they’d just written back saying that they can’t understand what all the fuss is about, and why don’t you just shut-up! At least it would have the virtue of honesty!
I hope you take your complaint further as suggested by Mrs Magpie. And please publish the responsive here!
November 30, 2009 at 1:26 pm
I would tell them that you damand they look at the CCTV and make sure it is saved. Some places only keep CCTV for a week, some for 2 weeks most for 28 days. I would not be surprised that by the time they get round to it the CCTV footage will have been destroyed and it would end up being a “Your word against ours” case
Good luck
November 30, 2009 at 1:39 pm
I think the manager needs a good kick up the behind, and this letter certainly doesn’t suggest he about to get one. He may have told fibs about the incident, of course, to cover up his atrocious behaviour, but the Wetherspoons letter is a disgrace. I think your reply is a good one, and I hope it gets you are rather more honest and humble response. They should be making the manager apologise personally!
Have you contacted the local press? Wetherspoons may sit up and listen if they are contacted by a journalist!
November 30, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Just one other thought – if he physically pushed your mother, isn’t that an assault of some kind? Would it also be worth checking with the police?
His behaviour sounds crass, arrogant, ignorant and immature.
I’m glad your mum has you to stand up for her and you’re making this so public.
November 30, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Contact Hearing Dogs, the may have a solicitor who takes on Disability Discrimination Act cases. Also ask them to check their CCTV and SEE what the dog was wearing that day. Be extremely surprised if there is no CCTV…
November 30, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Shocking! Sadly these chains often ignore legitimate complaints and probably spend a fortune on trained attack lawyers to fend off cases.
January 15, 2010 at 4:01 am
Contact hearing dogs and give them all the information, they will contact Weatherspoons as might the other four assistance dog organisations
Together if we stand up against discrimination we may overcome it
When I am refused access I complain not only for myself but for all owners who depend upon these highly trained life enhancing if not life saving dogs
October 7, 2010 at 6:43 pm
Didn’t you used to work for weatherspoons???
October 17, 2010 at 12:50 pm
well, sorry, but I have some things to point out. They apologised, what more do you want? they can send you a letter spelling out that the manager is a “£%$£ but I do not think there is anything more you can get. Just be happy they’ve come back to you with an apology. Also, if you read how you write to them, your style, choice of words, it is radically different to what you project when you write letters to them which just shows that you are a bit emotional about this, and it never helps the situation. Tell the mother that the manager was a bit of an arse and will get told off by the head office (that is guaraneed) so I do not think there is anything stopping you from going back to JJ Moons. In fact, you might rise awareness of other staff about the Hearing dogs. Quite frankly, before I read your article I did not know they existed. Just do not be negative and as you put it “arsy”. Fair enough, the manager was wrong, but that is a mistake he only made once, trust me. Do not go projecting this negative image. I would just leave it at that and make an effort to calm your mother. She is the victim, not you or the dog, so do not take it so hard, just try to even things out. Positive reinforcement. And one more thing- knowing how big organisations like their work, every branch and every pub probably got an e-mail with a new procedure outline regarding hte Hearing dogs.
Just relax, be happy, and go to that same pub with a smile on your face, that way you will receive a warm welcome.
November 8, 2010 at 10:36 am
You have no idea what you talking about. This sort of incident knocks you for 6 for a long time after. I am deaf, I have a hearing dog and have a similar case with BP where they refused to serve me because of my hearing dog. My daughter even called the police and the manager refused to listen to them. This is all down to BP not training there staff. They are breaking the law, by allowing this kind of discrimination and so are weatherspoons. There is no excuse for this kind of treatment, not from big organiztions like this. Its the year 2010 and we have enough deal with without being discriminated against because companies want to grab as much money as they can without doing there bit. They are not bothering to train there stafff and as a result of this, we are being subjected to embrassing, stressful incidents. I am now nervous , anytime I go into a new place with my hearing dog because I am scared of what they going to say. Its made much worse by the fact that I AM DEAF and I cannot communicate well at all. I had my 12 year old daughter with me and she too was treated very badly.
October 21, 2010 at 10:04 am
I have spent over 14 years working in the field of visual impairment…..and can confirm there are numerous organisations/shops/cafe’s/pubs who are totally unaware that assistance dogs are allowed onto the premises. Do follow it up, and I would use the newspapers too. Organisations always do this…..its your fault really….type of reply…its like they used to say with car accidents, never accept liability or blame. Name and shame…do a newspaper article and I guarantee no other person with an assistance dog will ever have a problem in that chain again..
October 21, 2010 at 10:14 am
Just read your comments Nat. Sometimes an apology is sufficient, especially when it is meant and the organisation or person apologising holds their hands up and says ‘mea culpa’. Its not enough when they apologise but add, ‘well actually there are a miriad of reasons why its not really our fault but yours, so we are not really responsible, you are ‘. I think the reply Wetherspoons penned says this fairly clearly. If such apologies were accepted at face value, little would change in the field of disability. When faced with similar attitudes in restaurants with friends with guide dogs, I have offered to call the police to the restaurant to sort out the problem, that usually persuades the restauranter that your claim dogs are permitted is in fact true. I would suggest the best way to deal with this is to ask Wetherspoons about the training they provide and offer yourself with your mother to go along and provide the training they require…if life gives you lemons…make lemonade!
February 14, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Hi
This a classic situation even DISABILITY DESCRIMINATION I have have in training as an assistance dog her name is grace
And she is with me 24/7 As yet we have not been thrown out of my local weatherspoons PH althoug I been shouted at by the publican to get out of my local pub
bully boy tacticts only serve to make me more firm in my stance against these Cretins
and only last week I was shouted at by a manager of the TFC thats the turkish food center walthamcross hertfordshire to get out and dont return all this was observed by customers and on video I quitely explained that he as an individual and also representing his company were in breach of the D D Act that old chestnut came out NO UNDERSTAND ENGLISH and he called out in turkish for help
well I feft the sho and contacted thier CEO by e-mail
the reply was fast and appologised etc
The next day I returned to the shop only to meet the manager whos English had improved to a amazing degree
He shouted rather load thrusting his head forward and trying to look aggresive I once again explained as I had previously NO GET OUT DOGS ARE DIRTY CUSTOMERS GET SCARRED Oh by the way my dog has a harness and vest with all the information on it and her declaration of use
I left again and sent another Email explaining my situation and nature of my complaint
Well a week passed and not being one to give up quite the reverse we returned to the shop and out came the same manager but this time with two other staff members this was some what aggresive and threating as they came up to me Well the managers English had improved no end he had picked up a few graphic expressions
I took out of my pocket a copy of the D D Act and the level of fine and of course the adverse publicity it would generate
well how amazing the manager could now even read English when he got to the section that explained the penalties that could be involved hewent a little pale in his face
OH no problem you and your dog can come in even a please but no appology
I then explained that I am writting a book on addmission of working dogs into various retail premises also Pubs Clubs etc
I have had a lot of grief but it just makes me angry,This one is a gem I walked into a church with my dog and was aazed by this man who declared no dogs allowed in here
why I said animals have souls dont they he just stood their barring my way I then explained and presented him with a copy of assistance dogs and theD D Act Inow all ways have a copy in my dogs back pack
I said to this nasty man I going to complain to your boss he said what the vicar no I said when I pray to-nite I will mention you
What a scream he was to quote GOB SMACKED
And me I got smashed up in a motor bike accident And then went and got Parkinsons rather badly thatmeans i have to use a stick to wobble around on and grace my dog acts as a four legged support for me
before all this I served my country and community for 27 years
Only to get told to get out and not allowed BOY THEY HAVE PICKED THE WRONG ONE any refusing entrance or discrimination report the CRETINS
February 26, 2011 at 5:08 am
What I don’t get is – do you really want to give these idiots money if they are going to treat you and yours like this?
August 11, 2011 at 12:57 am
these people are bigoted frightened idiots. Do not visit the Southend branch. They libel people of good character for their failings. I’m sure they read this site, so matt, if u watching, i wil find u…
August 15, 2011 at 10:06 am
Your situation is far worse, but my 85 year old mother was told off for having a dog on the public pavement outside Wetherspoons in Chard. Nowhere on their website does it give a dogs policy. I will not be frequenting their chain again.
August 15, 2011 at 2:02 pm
@ janet brown
Yes there is a dogs policy – at least now! It’s in the FAQs.
http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/static/pdfs/FAQs.pdf
Yesterday I was asked to leave the Canary Wharf Wetherspoons, after having ordered & paid for my food! My money was refunded and then I was told to go! There was no ‘no dogs’ sign anywhere in sight on their patio. (Mine is not an assistance dog, but all other pubs etc allow dogs into outside areas.) The other customers there were shocked & appalled.
August 25, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Thank you for this. Poor you – they should have signs up – we are not mind readers. There were no signs in Chard either. There is no way this information can be located by a site search so they seem to be hiding it! I have contacted Somerset CC who tell me that Wetherspoons had no right to ask us to remove our dog from the pavement as it is a public highway. I want to bring this to the attention of as many people as possible to stop them acting unlawfully and distressing people.
I have tried to contact Wetherspoons but – surprise, surprise – no responce.
January 23, 2013 at 5:00 pm
Pleased to hear you weren’t allowed to remain with a dog. You should realise that animals and hygiene just don’t go together. An exception is made for assistance dogs and that’s fair enough but for all other dogs, leave them at home why don’t you?
August 31, 2011 at 8:54 am
Re Janet Brown and Guest. You are in an area where people are eating and perhaps they are not as enthralled with the idea of having your dog inches from their food as you are. The original point about hearing dogs is well made but to then evolve it into an attack on a company for what should be a basic manners/common sense issue is a bit rich. Ultimately it is your dog, your responsibility to ASK whether your pet is welcome. I’m sure live tigers are not welcome but do you require a sign to tell you that? Too much time on your hands and a self righteous attitude unfortunately served to hamstring your argument. Unlucky.
August 31, 2011 at 9:33 am
@ Harrison
Talking about hamstringing an argument…
Yours is one of the silliest on here. How many people on an outside patio would have a dog “inches” from their food?? Daft remark. And the one about tigers is even dafter.
@ Janet Brown
I emailed Wetherspoons & got a reply back two weeks later – in the post! – saying they were sorry about the incident but that was the company policy. Oh yes? There’s a Wetherspoons in Catford where everyone & his granny brings his dog onto the patio! It just depends on the manager, it seems.
August 31, 2011 at 4:13 pm
And I suppose Harrison, I should not enter wetherspoons or any public place because I have epilepsy, in case it might upset the customers, if I were to have a fit?? It is called disability discrimination what happened that day, with the lady’s hearing dog, how humiliating. Does she not have a right to some kind of allowance in her current situation and is able to have a fuller life thanks to her hearing dog? I hope you are able bodied and are happy surrounded by your predjudice. Good luck. (I have a funny feeling Harrison is a cat person!! lol)
October 4, 2011 at 6:11 pm
I do not understand there policy on dogs. There profits are down and all they have to do to get them up is to let dogs in there outside areas. I do not know of any other pubs who do not allow dogs in there gardens, which are well behaved and kept on leads.
They say that they like dogs but will not have them on there premises. I have asked many members of staff in lots of there pubs and they can not understand it, and generally say they would rather have dogs than badly behaved children.
Also how can they ban dogs from pavements when these are owned by the council?
As for the lady that was pushed out of the pub, the best thing she could do would be to get the local blind group together and take 50 people and there guide dogs into this Weatherspoons pub to make a stand.
November 3, 2011 at 3:26 pm
I have a complaint towards weatherspoons does anyone have the managing directors contact details please as I feel i now need to go that route……… thank you
November 27, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Hello there, I’d just like to say as a member of a wetherspoons pub down south I am disgusted by what you had to experience. I can assure you no such incident would be taken lightly in my pub. I am so sorry your mother had to indure this incident with such an uneducated individual. I hope you do not think all wetherspoon pub staff are like this a I aside you they are you, you just happened to experience a bad pub and a bad manager! I hope everything is resolved and wish you the best.
January 9, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Thank you for any other great post. Where else could anyone get that type of information in such a perfect method of writing? I have a presentation next week, and I’m on the search for such info.
February 21, 2012 at 1:40 pm
I read the above comments with great interest as I have had issue with Wetherspoons and have complained personally
to the local Manager of the pub and to the Head Office by email(twice). No reply has been received but I am not giving up!
I had a lousy meal there(on a stone-cold plate!) and they even managed to cook garden peas so badly that they were inedible and i spat them into a tissue(not very nice, I know, but neither were the peas!) The Manager showed little interest, said he would report it but that he hoped that I realized that “it was out of his hands now”!! He’s only the Manager!!
I won’t be going there again. The pub is “The Watchmaker” in Prescot, Merseyside, in case anyone is thinking of going
there. Apparently, this place is getting a reputation for rotten food. (and rotten Managers!)
March 16, 2012 at 10:38 pm
Hi I would like to complain about your sir Daniels door staff in swindon I have just been refused access to your club in Swindon for being to drunk I am a 31 year old male out with my wife and friends I heavenly had three pints and told I was unable to come in as I was too drunk I find this very poor as I could see young women if a very poor state being let in. I visit your establishments in Swindon quit frequent but refuse too in future. I believe this too be a poor judgement on hour door staff and very biassed if I was a women I would have been allowed in I will make my thoughts off your door staff very well known and not visit any of your establishments in future yor tho reply greatly anticipated.
March 23, 2012 at 8:31 am
It would appear as if you are drunk at the time of writing. Have you any grasp of the English language and very basic spelling.
May 9, 2012 at 10:02 am
Oh dear, get a grip- that is mot anywhere near the same as what happened to this poor lady’s mum, and is rather insulting that you think it is!
April 26, 2012 at 11:57 am
That’s outragerous.
Send the complaint the only way for these incomplete idiots to learn is by loss of money or being recognised by the press for what they did.
April 26, 2012 at 9:33 pm
i had a similar issue with the wetherspoons in cwmbran south wales email me if you want details
April 28, 2012 at 6:11 pm
This is not a complaint but an observation. i use the Standing Order in Derby on a regular basis and have no problems normal days getting served.However on football match days it is a real problem trying to get served , i have seen customers so frustrated they have just walked out and with them the money they would have spent. In my opinion, I think it would pay to have 2 to 4 more staff on just for these lunch times. I believe this would be cost effective because of the extra revenue coming in over the bar and good customer.service this would promote.
Pete Southall
May 9, 2012 at 9:29 am
Well done you are absolutely right the majority of Wetherspoons staff are morons. Hope you get another reply but I wouldnt hold your breath
May 9, 2012 at 9:57 am
This is TERRIBLE! Would love to know what happened after your second letter of complaint. How can they put someone in a managerial position that is not fully aware of their responsibilities and role, surely how to treat your customers, disabled or otherwise is a pretty important part of being a manager!
May 9, 2012 at 9:59 am
Oh and I liked the post for your wonderful attempts to get this sorted, not because I like the situation :§
May 11, 2012 at 3:02 am
i am very surprised at wetherspoons i thought it was a peoples pub caring for their customers dont forget half your bread and butter comes from pensioners coming in to eat in the afternoon please treat them with respect your turn will come come on tim get involved dont let happen again you owe it to your customers without them you would not success
June 2, 2012 at 12:02 am
Beer quite cheap at weatherspoons, but don’t order a lemonade for the designated driver. A standard glass is 0ne pound seventy five pence. I don’t know how many thousands of percent profit that is, but they are going to make massive proffits some-how. Somewhere to give a miss to I think!
June 2, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Brilliant…
June 6, 2012 at 11:23 am
Good for u an mum,ask for compensation.i went in one of their pubs near me,and the food,chicken was awful,inedible,didnt complain but will in future.jan
June 16, 2012 at 3:44 pm
I too had never heard of hearing dogs until one afternoon when I was impatiently trying to pass a gentleman at a gate at Hammmersmith tube station I noticed that the mans dog had a rather funky red coat on which I thought looked cool. I said excuse me to the man to which there was no reply. I again said excuse me this time much louder again there was no reply. Angrily I raised my voice again and said “mate can you move”. Still no acknowledgement at this point someone tapped me on the shoulder and pointed down to the dog. I then read the words HEARING DOG. I was mortified I felt so stupid. I then dropped to one knee beside the dog lifted his ear and said quietly ” gonna tell that fat mutton prick to get out of my way before I knock him spark out”. Everyone including the guy at the barrier fell about laughing and the deaf guy was none the wiser job done.
July 22, 2012 at 9:25 am
What happen?!
August 19, 2012 at 11:28 am
So sorry to hear about your mum’s treatment. It seems they like to pick on the disabled and women in particular. I had a similar experience recently and I am currently going through the back and forth letters to the so called customer service cretins, returning their insulting £10.00 vouchers! As if I will ever frequent them again! Trying to get a letter to Tim Martin is probably going to be an impossible task, however, I have lodged a complaint with the environmental safety of my local council, as the food was undercooked and cold. I shall also be sending a letter to trading standards watford and of course my local MP. It is all we can do… keep complaining about these massive chain pubs, who like to employ bullying bouncers as so called “managers”! Good luck! My blog on my experience http://www.debiwolfreeves.co.uk/archives/2001
October 1, 2012 at 2:29 pm
As a Wetherspoons employee, I must make some protest. It is unfortunate what has happened to your mother, and you are perfectly correct in what you have said. However, my resentment is to the painting of all JDW pubs and employees with the same brush.
If you were to come to my Wetherspoons (J.J. Moons in wembley. Under the same area manager as the J.J. Moons you mention)
You would see how we cater for any disability to the best of our ability. A few examples:
A man comes in occasionally with arthritis in his thumbs, we go out of our way to carry his drinks to his table.
We often have people with bulky electric wheelchairs, and we will happily rearrange any furniture for them.
Any disability we can’t see, as soon as we are told, we will cater for no matter what. We will also apologise regardless and continue with the customer in the most appropriate way we can.
So I must ask, please don’t judge the entirety of the company by the stupidity of the few.
October 5, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Rob Pryce,
Just stumbled across this correspondence. I have eaten in many Wetherspoon’s around the country and even stayed overnight in some of their hotels. I can honestly state that I have received nothing but the best of attention in all bar one. Folkestone, since you ask. Tarring with the same brush all branches in a chain is an extremely unfair way of assessing that chain.
However, I am sure that the original complainants’ experience has been acted upon and rectified by awareness training. The manager can have no real excuse. That being said, with the appalling standard of English displayed by some correspondents, their lack of presence in a Wetherspoon’s can only be a positive.
October 11, 2012 at 8:39 pm
When the grammar police have quite fonished their patronising rhetoric in support of the disabled in the face of blatant discrimination they might do well to consider that dyslexia and Parkinsonism (to name but two) are both disabilities that may contribute to perceived ‘inaccuracies’ in spelling and grammar. The iPhone spell checker isn’t too helpful sometimes either. Nowhere in the act does it mention the standard of education required to be disabled either or to have the right to voice an opinion.
The English language continues to evolve and you don’t own it!
October 22, 2012 at 12:29 am
I’m actually very disappointed because every time I have been to this pub I’ve had brilliant meals and service ! That’s just changed my opinion today I was in with my friend and we both received stone cold food and we sent them back with the waitress who didn’t really care about our thoughts we then got the same meal just re heated i know this because i cut my chicken in half to see if it was actually cold in the middle wich it was and now my friend is ill because chicken was cold then reheated I’m not happy and will not be eating here again very angry loyal customer my friend is very sick
October 22, 2012 at 12:38 am
I’m actually very disappointed because every time I have been to this pub I’ve had brilliant meals and service ! That’s just changed my opinion today I was in with my friend and we both received stone cold food and we sent them back with the waitress who didn’t really care about our thoughts we then got the same meal just re heated and now my friend is ill because chicken was cold then reheated I’m not happy and will not be eating here again very angry loyal customer
October 26, 2012 at 7:37 pm
I was one of the people who laughed at Hellen Keller ( in real life a six foot solid Neanderthal from Scotland and built like a brick shit house.I am so sorry that I found this to be funny at the time and I am still thoroughly ashamed of myself. I now do charity work for the guide dogs for the blind and I hope that you can find it in your hearts to forgive me
January 6, 2013 at 8:19 pm
hey mr spineless if this incident had happened to my mother the offending employee would not be walking for a month game over!
January 13, 2013 at 11:25 am
WOW it is amazing how many people are seriously disgruntled with JD Wetherspoons I know exactly how everyone feels back in October 2012 my partners parents who came down from Scotland for a few days took us both out for a birthday meal and I suggested The Fleur-de-Lis in Banbury, boy I will never eat in there again we had the Chicken New Yorker, when the meal arrived the chips were still frozen and so were the peas, well the chicken you had to laugh we got the knife half way through and then we couldn’t go any further picked it up and it was completely burn’t could not eat it complained at the restaurant and was offered a complimentary dessert for the inconvianence, taking the piss there, when checking the receipt the cheek of them charged us for the meal seperatley to the drinks when we actually ordered the meal deal,
well I logged a complaint on the website got a reply on 22nd October saying the following (word for word)
Dear Ms ——
Thank you for letting us know about your experience. I’m sorry that your visit was disappointing.
I have passed your comments on to the area manager and the team responsible for the pub and they will look into this and get back to you.
Once again thanks for taking the time to get in touch
Yours sincerly
Jodie Forde
JD Wetherspoon plc
well guess what three months down the line what have I received nothing not one word off them well I have now written back to them informing them of my disgust at the way they have handled this, lets see what happens now
January 21, 2013 at 11:18 am
i agree that what happpened was wrong… but not all wetherspoons are the same, im an employee at one of their branches in the north east and all the staff are really friendly and u can have a laugh with them whenever u like, we even hire disabled persons as to not discriminate against disabled people, i dont know if this is a company wide initiative but what we do where i work i think is really note worthy.
March 5, 2013 at 8:35 pm
This is an excellent pub and we locals do not want dogs in here.
May 22, 2013 at 3:59 pm
I think your the plank mate. These dogs give people an advantage in life some wouldn’t survive without there trained dogs why should disabled people miss out because ignorant people like you?
March 15, 2013 at 1:53 pm
2 wks ago March 2013 Ivisited moon under the water,Boston.I ordered my drink,(which at 1st was served wrong )& without any fuss sat with friends.I had brought with me 2 mini pork pies & gave 1 to my uncle & 1 I ate myself.My uncle joked he wanted sauce,so I went &took a sachet from the condIment area.(yes I know this was wrong but we do spend good money in there)On seeing this the same person who got my drink wrong said something to me in a foreign accent which I couldn’t understand.When I asked her to repeat it,she swore & in a slow patronising voice sked if I didn’t understand English!!!I admit I swore back as I was shocked but proceeded to finish my food & drink before leaving with no more fuss.No managers or staff asked me to leave.My nxt visit I’m refused service on uIe grounds I was racist ,the managers wouldn’t listen to what I had to say,so I complained to head office.I received a letter saying sorry but we can’t do anything as the reason for barring is at the managers discretion.I am half Irish/English,have a Russian girlfriend(we are having our 1st baby :~) ) I have mixed raced relatives & friends of many nationalities but because I couldn’t understand someone accent I’m RACIST,Wetherspoons attitude absolutely stinks.They are the racist 1′s by discriminating against me for not understanding a foreign accent in England,if anyone has e-mail or contact details of director or ceo for this firm please post them as this incident has upset me & I cannot let this drop,many thanks
April 9, 2013 at 5:00 pm
I recently complained to Wetherspoons about an unacceptable experience we had on Easter Sunday whilst out with my mum, after waiting a week and getting no response I phoned the customer service department, I expalined I had made a compalint and a rude woman asked me my name said she would deal with it today and put the phone down, I phoned back and also stated to another advisor that I was very unhappy about having the phone put down on me when I hadn’t finished speaking, I wanted to know the time period that my complaint should be dealt with, guess what, there is none, there is no policy on an acceptable response time etc, the second advisor sounded bored and couldn’t wait to get me off the phone, shame the calls are not recorded, they could perhaps help to train their staff on how to behave in a professional manner towards customers. Lets face it if we didnt spend our money with them, they wouldnt have their job would they. Appalling attitude for people in this role representing a company.
June 2, 2013 at 4:20 pm
here is happened to me and my diabled family at wetherspoons in chester yesterday
June 2, 2013 at 4:20 pm
April 22, 2013 at 7:43 pm
Dogs should stay outside at all times and should NOT be allowed in pubs, got it you plank?